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Re: FC Manchester United

Postano: 26 mar 2012, 12:49
Postao/la rio_Ferdy88
Odlican clanak o nasem Dimiu, kad se sjetim koliko smo, citavo ljeto :mrgreen: , zeljno iscekivali njegov dolazak ;)

Dignity intact, Dimitar Berbatov heads quietly for Old Trafford exit
The Manchester United striker shows Carlos Tevez how to bow out of a bad situation gracefully ;)
So much has been said over the past week about Carlos Tevez and so little about the man who shared last season's Golden Boot award with the Argentinian, but who could give him a lesson or two in what a footballer has to do to earn respect in complicated times. Dimitar Berbatov has accrued his over the past year, in the quiet, dignified way he has dealt with the many crushing disappointments that have brought us to the point at which his agent, Emil Danchev, is now willing to confirm that, yes, Manchester United are cutting him free at the end of the season.

It had been coming and, when it happens, it will be done with little fuss. A couple of lines on the club's website, maybe. Then Berbatov will politely put on his coat and show himself to the door, almost certainly at the rear of the building. :(

It has been an eccentric ride and it is not easy to make sense of how it has unravelled. Berbatov has exasperated and exhilarated in equal measure. He has played with our minds, bewitched us in the good moments and bemused us in the bad. Ultimately, however, we will have to consider that he has failed, at least in the sense that he is the most expensive player Sir Alex Ferguson has ever signed and he has plainly, irretrievably, lost the trust of United's manager. Yet the Berbatov story is such an unusual one that it is difficult to judge simply by ticking the boxes of success or failure.

He will be widely remembered, almost certainly, as a flop, yet 48 goals from 82 league starts and 24 substitute appearances is actually an improvement on his record at Tottenham Hotspur. Twenty of those goals came last season, when several colleagues, including Wayne Rooney, nominated him for the club's player of the year award. This season – however much his self-esteem has been scorched – he has still scored seven times in 10 appearances, half of them as a substitute.

These are the kind of statistics a striker would ordinarily cherish, but the inescapable truth is that Ferguson has clearly decided Berbatov is not cut out for the highest level. A theme has developed whereby Berbatov has been deployed against lesser teams, but stood down when the heat of the battle is less tolerable. The most staggering statistic is that he has not started against a top-six opponent for 14 months. Since arriving on the final day of the 2008 summer transfer window, he has been left out of 41 of United's 66 big games, meaning finals, semi-finals, European knockout ties, the Club World Cup and league matches against Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City and Spurs. He was not even on the bench for United's last two games and it would be no surprise if it was the same against Fulham on Monday.

What there has not been is a proper explanation, other than Ferguson telling Berbatov, according to Danchev, that he wants to "change the style of play of United, to put more speed in the game". A legacy, perhaps, of the beatings Barcelona have handed out to United in two of the past three Champions League finals. Berbatov's football could be set to a harp cadenza, whereas United operate to a different beat, more cha-cha-cha than slow-slow-slow.

In a game last year, one of Berbatov's team-mates took issue with him for not running hard enough. Berbatov pointed out that was the way he played and he didn't need to go faster. "You do at this club," came the reply, expletives removed.

All of which misinterprets the qualities that, sporadically, make Berbatov a formidable opponent – when his touch is at its most exquisite, it can make his audience believe he is on first-name terms with the ball. Magical, very often. Just maybe not often enough.

Berbatov will leave behind the sense that he lacks the one thing that can distinguish footballers at the very highest level – the force of personality to impose himself on the biggest matches. Exhibit A is last season's FA Cup semi-final, in which he spared Manchester City more times than he will care to remember. In the Champions League there were 22 games without scoring. He became the first United player since 1946 to score a hat-trick against Liverpool last season, but even that came with a rider, United's opponents being fifth from bottom at the time. Added to this are the long periods when his partnership with Rooney never shone as brightly as Ferguson was entitled to expect. There were only two occasions in their first season when one set up the other to score. They have flickered on plenty of occasions, but never truly ignited.

All of which has led us to the point at which Berbatov, in Danchev's words, now feels uncomfortable collecting his high salary from the club, an admission in keeping with his agent saying it is "not his style to start making scandals like Tevez". No interviews, no fuss, no briefing behind the manager's back, just the sense that he wished it had turned out differently, particularly if we remember last season's Champions League final, when United's top scorer did not even get a substitute's role and was so broken he never left the dressing room. After that, the only surprise is that the separation has taken so long to be confirmed.

Berbatov has drifted so far to the edges he is straying dangerously close to becoming one of football's forgotten men :( . On Friday, Ferguson held his first press conference since Danchev confirmed what everyone had suspected. Berbatov, the £30.75m man, did not warrant a mention.

Re: FC Manchester United

Postano: 26 mar 2012, 12:59
Postao/la Patrice_Evra_3
De Gea - Evans, Ferdinand, Rafael, Evra - Carrick, Scholes, Valencia, Young - Rooney, Welbeck .
Nešto poput ovog večeras pa da se ode na +3. :mrgreen: Samo ozbiljan pristup večeras i mislim da ne bi trebalo bit' problema. Mislim da su svi svjesni koliko bi značio odlazak na +3 i da će se i postaviti na pravi način.

Re: FC Manchester United

Postano: 26 mar 2012, 13:42
Postao/la bazeni
Prema riječima menadžera Manchester Uniteda Sir Alexa Fergusona, iskusnom stoperu kluba Riju Ferdinandu (33), kojem aktualni ugovor istječe na kraju sljedeće sezone, bit će ponuđeno produljenje suradnje...

Trenutno Ferdinand zarađuje 120.000 funti tjedno, a u novom ugovoru, nagađa se, mogao bi dobiti smanjenu osnovicu plus bonuse za nastupe.

- Rio je i dalje mlad za centralnog braniča. Mislim da sve ovisi o tome kako se on osjeća fizički i da li je za njega momentum dobar. S vremena na vrijeme ga uklješti u leđima i na to moramo pripaziti – rekao je Ferguson.

- Stalno mislim da sam potpisao Rija prije tri ili četiri godine. Zaboravljam da je to bilo prije skoro deset godina. Jako je utjecajan u svlačionici i sjajan je s ostalim igračima, jednostavno je briljantan – dodao je škotski strateg o igraču kojeg je doveo 2002. godine iz Leedsa. 8-)

Re: FC Manchester United

Postano: 26 mar 2012, 14:00
Postao/la Cartman
Patrice_Evra_3 je napisao/la:De Gea - Evans, Ferdinand, Rafael, Evra - Carrick, Scholes, Valencia, Young - Rooney, Welbeck .
To je to. Nadam se i da ce Cleverley dobit barem pola sata.

Re: FC Manchester United

Postano: 26 mar 2012, 15:32
Postao/la rio_Ferdy88
Possible lineups ;)

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Manchester United

Subs from Amos, Jones, Berbatov, Giggs, Smalling, Park, Young, F da Silva, Cleverley, Pogba, Keane, Fryers

Doubtful Cleverley (ankle), Jones (illness)

Injured Lindegaard (ankle, 2 Apr), Owen (thigh, 8 Apr), Anderson (hamstring, 22 Apr), Bébé (knee, Aug), Vidic (knee, Aug), Fletcher (bowel, unknown), Nani (ankle, unknown)

Fulham

Subs from Etheridge, Stockdale, Baird, Kasami, Murphy, Gecov, Duff, BH Riise, Hughes, Etuhu, Frei, Davies, Halliche

Injured Sidwell (hernia, 14 Apr), Orlando Sá (hamstring, 21 Apr), Grygera (knee, Aug) ;)

Re: FC Manchester United

Postano: 26 mar 2012, 15:58
Postao/la Cartman
Sumnjam da ce Fulham pocet ovako napadacki, ali nadam se da hoce. Jer ubit cemo ih po krilima ako ovako startaju.

Re: FC Manchester United

Postano: 26 mar 2012, 16:15
Postao/la Cartman
Zar je doslo do toga da Cityu treba pomoc sa neba protiv Uniteda? http://sportsport.ba/blabla/roberto-man ... star/77355" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:lol:

Re: FC Manchester United

Postano: 26 mar 2012, 16:17
Postao/la Bosniacum Lilium
vidim da se prica o kagawi. Igrac je zmaj ;) Bilo mi je zao kada je slomio nogu, mislim da bi vec sada bio u nekom jacem klubu :D

Re: FC Manchester United

Postano: 26 mar 2012, 16:26
Postao/la red devil88
Kagawa je igracina i kad bi on dosao to bi bio vrh sad samo neznam kako bi se on snasao u EPL i to je jedini rizik zato je ipak Modric po meni bolje rijesenje jer ima iskustvo a i dokazao se u EPL.Veceras treba samo ofanzivno krenuti nista taktizirati da ne useremo,ako veceras uzmemo 3 boda onda smo nadomak tituli jer Shity treba jos igrat protiv Arsenala koji je u strasnoj formi i Newcastle-a koji je izgleda opet uhvatio ritam.Shity ima znatno tezi raspored do kraju i to je nasa velika prednost.

Re: FC Manchester United

Postano: 26 mar 2012, 16:33
Postao/la braco
Cartman je napisao/la:Zar je doslo do toga da Cityu treba pomoc sa neba protiv Uniteda? http://sportsport.ba/blabla/roberto-man ... star/77355" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:lol:
Misli da će mu se ukazat titula. :mrgreen:

Re: FC Manchester United

Postano: 26 mar 2012, 16:41
Postao/la Rooney88
Mene je nekako strah Fulhama veceras, mozda zato sto gledam prvenstveno na vaznost ovog meca. Ako dobijemo veceras onda smo u dobroj prednosti nad Arapima. Nakon Fulhama nam ide jos nekoliko laksih meceva sa Blackburnom u gostima (sto je lagan mec samo na papiru, Blackburn je jako nezgodan za nas), QPR-om kuci, Wiganom u gostima, Villom i Evertonom kuci a onda ide sudar sa Cityem na njihovom gdje do sada nisu izgubili ni boda. Sa druge strane City ima nekoliko tezih utakmica kao sto je gostovanje Norwichu ili pravi ispit kontra "Topnika" na Emiratesu, realno tu najvise nade polazem i ja i svi navijaci Uniteda - sve na Robina :D . A nakon toga imaju i gostovanje Newcastleu gdje takodjer mogu kiksati.

Dakako da nam je raspored daleko bolji, bar na papiru laksi od njihovog ali treba ici utakmicu po utakmicu. Prvi ispit je veceras protiv Fulhama koji je imao 3 vezane pobjede u ligi ali su razocarali protiv Ville i Swanselone (hvala jos jednom :mrgreen: ) tako da bi veceras mogli biti jos i opasniji, naravno da ih treba ozbiljno shvatiti sto ce SAF i uraditi sigurno. Ne smije nam se ponoviti Blackburn i samo kad` se njih sjetim sve ekipe mi nekako ulijevaju strah, Fulham pogotovo jos ako uzmemo u obzir ono demoliranje na Cottageu, to ce gostima sigurno biti dodatni motiv pred vecerasnji sraz.

Vidjet` cemo sta ce biti, gatanjem se nikad` nisam bavio pa necu ni pred ovaj duel, ostavimo igracima da pokazu sta znaju.

Re: FC Manchester United

Postano: 26 mar 2012, 16:48
Postao/la Thunderstruck
Ja se uopće ne bojim Fulhama. Ipak je utakmica za nas od prevelike važnosti zato neće biti nikakvog opuštanja. Igrači su svježi i odmorni, dok s druge strane Fulham nema nikakvih ambicija. Očekujem Fulham sličan onome kako je izledao Stoke prije nekoliko kola na OT-u, apsolutno bezvoljan i bez ambicija da krene prema protivničkom golu i nešto uradi. Ali, naravno, treba biti krajnje oprezan i utakmicu od početka staviti pod kontrolu.

Btw, očekujem da večeras makar anuliramo Cityjevu prednost u gol razlici. :D

Re: FC Manchester United

Postano: 26 mar 2012, 16:59
Postao/la trxel
Sad kiksat nesmjemo...Sve drugo osim pobjede ne dolazi u obzir...Nebitno jel igramo protiv Fulhama,il Wigana,il bilo koga u ovom momentu,pobjeda je imperativ...City ima tezi raspored,ali zato imaju i individualni kvalitet na visokom nivou....Treba bit realan pa reci da je neka druga konstatacija,il mozda drugi trener gradjana,da bi se tesko nosili s njima ove sezone,...Potrefilo se u nasu korist ovakva situacija,i ovo se mora iskoristit...Nek SAF od iduce sezone uvodi kratke pasove,nek radi sta oce,samo ove da ostane jos par utakmica na vrhu...

Re: FC Manchester United

Postano: 26 mar 2012, 18:18
Postao/la motty
trxel je napisao/la:Sad kiksat nesmjemo...Sve drugo osim pobjede ne dolazi u obzir...Nebitno jel igramo protiv Fulhama,il Wigana,il bilo koga u ovom momentu,pobjeda je imperativ...City ima tezi raspored,ali zato imaju i individualni kvalitet na visokom nivou....Treba bit realan pa reci da je neka druga konstatacija,il mozda drugi trener gradjana,da bi se tesko nosili s njima ove sezone,...Potrefilo se u nasu korist ovakva situacija,i ovo se mora iskoristit...Nek SAF od iduce sezone uvodi kratke pasove,nek radi sta oce,samo ove da ostane jos par utakmica na vrhu...
Sto se tice lige nista se nije poklopilo u nasu korist, jedino smo u prvih par kola bili kompletni ostalo je za historiju oko 65 ozljeda od toga dvojica ili trojica izgubljena cijelu sezonu, smjena generacije na vrlo vaznim pozicijama. Ako pak aludirate na katastrofalni chelsea liverpool arsenal(do nazad 6-7 kola) onda su nam jednaki protivnici. Jedino sto nam je islo u korist je glupiranje teveza i djelimicno maria.

Re: FC Manchester United

Postano: 26 mar 2012, 18:34
Postao/la Cartman
Jedino cu rec da su United i City zamjenili trenere ove sezone, City bi bio 15 poena ispred. Ali dok je SAF tu, United ce uvijek bit konkurentan u domacoj ligi.

Re: FC Manchester United

Postano: 26 mar 2012, 18:56
Postao/la LoVeRBoYUnited
Cartman je napisao/la:Jedino cu rec da su United i City zamjenili trenere ove sezone, City bi bio 15 poena ispred. Ali dok je SAF tu, United ce uvijek bit konkurentan u domacoj ligi.
Tu si u pravu.daleko bi bili ispred uniteda imaju jace igrace,ali nemaju tog ko ce ih posloziti kako treba :D . prvi primjer je sa tevezom ono je sramota nikad se nebi onako nesto desilo SAF.

Re: FC Manchester United

Postano: 26 mar 2012, 19:00
Postao/la rastafarian
Večerašnji susret Uniteda i Fulhama će suditi Michael Oliver, dok će sljedeću utakmicu, kada United gostuje Blackburnu (2. aprila) suditi Howard Webb. :mrgreen:
Mogu misliti komentara scousera i ostalih :lol:

Re: FC Manchester United

Postano: 26 mar 2012, 19:02
Postao/la Thunderstruck
rastafarian je napisao/la:Večerašnji susret Uniteda i Fulhama će suditi Michael Oliver, dok će sljedeću utakmicu, kada United gostuje Blackburnu (2. aprila) suditi Howard Webb. :mrgreen:
Mogu misliti komentara scousera i ostalih :lol:
Jeeeeeee. :mrgreen: :lol:

Re: FC Manchester United

Postano: 26 mar 2012, 19:06
Postao/la Henderson
rastafarian je napisao/la:Večerašnji susret Uniteda i Fulhama će suditi Michael Oliver, dok će sljedeću utakmicu, kada United gostuje Blackburnu (2. aprila) suditi Howard Webb. :mrgreen:
Mogu misliti komentara scousera i ostalih :lol:
Hajd to, ali što obje utakmice igrate kada se sve ostale utakmice odigraju :P
Nego, čestitao sam vam osvajanje Carling Cupa, FA Cupa, LP, EL i došao sam još da vam čestitam osvajanje EPL-a :mrgreen:

Re: FC Manchester United

Postano: 26 mar 2012, 19:07
Postao/la Thunderstruck
Henderson je napisao/la:
Nego, čestitao sam vam osvajanje Carling Cupa, FA Cupa, LP, EL i došao sam još da vam čestitam osvajanje EPL-a :mrgreen:
Po ko zna koji put? :mrgreen: