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Post Postao/la Saurman » 21 jun 2020, 19:50

Why Barcelona Are Vulnerable to a Financial Disaster over COVID-19
Despite last season's humiliating exit to Liverpool in the UEFA Champions League semi-final at Anfield, Barcelona President Josep Maria Bartomeu and his board could look back with a sense of satisfaction at the club's financial performance.

On paper, things looked rosy. Barca leapfrogged eternal rivals Real Madrid to become football's biggest earner at the top of the annual Deloitte Money League for 2018-2019, registering a 22 per cent increase in revenue from the previous year. Their income of €840.8 million was a chunky €83.5 million more than Real Madrid's.

The COVID-19 crisis has changed everything, however. It brings into stark relief several questionable aspects about Barca's finances, their future earning potential and their ability to remain a force on the pitch in elite football.

Football is a volatile business. Leeds United—who once beat Barca in a European Cup semi-final—have been out of the top tier of English football since 2004. It looks as if at least a decade will pass before Manchester United regain the English Premier League crown they last won in 2013.

The fall of the mighty AC Milan—who have won more European Cups than any other club except Real Madrid—is another cautionary tale. They were consistently the third-wealthiest club in football in the middle of the 2000s, but now they're outside football's top 20 earners.

Barcelona—along with their great rivals in European club football—are under threat. The football industry, which remained immune to the 2008 global financial crash, is on the front line this time of a potentially deep global recession. It's being hit by a far-from-perfect storm.

Barcelona have already lost €154 million as a result of the coronavirus crisis, according to a report in La Vanguardia. This is irrespective of whether there is a conclusion to the 2019-2020 La Liga season, which is set to restart in mid-June (according to La Liga President Javier Tebas, the league will lose €1 billion if it fails to finish its remaining games).

Since the Spanish government brought in a lockdown on March 14, Barca's museum, which earned the club €58 million last year, has been shut. The club's superstores in the city—including one they opened last year along La Rambla, the city's famous boulevard—have also been shut. With the prospect of little international tourism for the rest of the year in Spain, their footfall will remain low when they reopen as part of Spain's phased de-escalation.

All over Barca's business, several income streams have either slowed to a trickle or dried up for the rest of the year. There will be no lucrative summer tour in 2020. Their football schools still have a €15 million payment pending for the final third of their season. That income looks lost. The transfer values of their players have likely plummeted.

Worst of all, it's unlikely the 99,000-seater Camp Nou stadium will open its doors again to the public this year, according to several ****, including Tebas. And this is the optimistic scenario.

Who knows how the coronavirus will develop, whether a second wave will hit Europe or if football fans will be able to stomach watching football in empty stadiums on TV. It could demand some experimental thinking, says Simon Kuper, co-author of Soccernomics and an upcoming book on Barcelona.

"The risk with this pandemic is that football has never paused for this long before [even during World Wars]," says Kuper. "Maybe La Liga will start playing again, but if not, you could have people getting used to a life without watching football on TV. Without fans, it's never been tested. We do know that Serie A games [in the 1990s] famously looked terrible on TV because they were played in front of half-empty stadiums.

"One option that might become a reality—crazy as it sounds—is that football decamps to Australia and New Zealand if they can become COVID-free zones. You'd have, say, the Spanish league (and the Bundesliga, the English Premier League, cricket leagues) and its players moving there for six months with a two-week quarantine.

"Their matches could be played in front of full stadiums in Sydney and Melbourne, games which would be seen on TV stations all over the world—rather than having to watch Real Madrid playing at an empty Alfredo di Stefano training ground [as is planned for La Liga's restart to enable the club to accelerate remodelling of its Santiago Bernabeu Stadium]."

Barcelona's problems are compounded by reckless spending. They recently splurged several-hundred million euros on misfiring stars, including Ousmane Dembele and Philippe Coutinho, while the jury is still out on Antoine Griezmann, who has yet to jell with Lionel Messi in the team's attack.

Barca also incur the highest wage bill of any football club in the world. The squad earns a yearly average of €11 million per player. The percentage of the club's salary relative to their revenue is 69 per cent, which is dangerously high. Real Madrid's, for example, is 52 per cent.

"If you calculate this figure by taking into account player transfers, that percentage increases and goes above 80 per cent," says Victor Font, who has declared he will run for president of Barcelona at the next election. "Barca have the most expensive team on earth. Obviously the fact that you have Messi—who is the best in the world—is [a factor]. The problem is that the club is paying out too much on other players.

"Barcelona haven't managed their finances properly over the last few years since the last election [in 2015]. We've seen that trend deteriorate since the debacle of Neymar's transfer in 2017 with a couple of very expensive, unsuccessful signings. The club has spent €1 billion on transfers that have not returned the types of results the club's fans were expecting. Combine this with poor management of the core structure of the club, and it has put Barca in a difficult position.

"If you add in the pandemic, it has made the situation worse. It's likely the club will try to explain the difficulty in their finances through the COVID-19 pandemic, but the underlying problems were there already. What we need now is a proper plan to better manage the cost structure and create new revenue streams."

One way to help with a creaking cost structure is to cut the club's wage bill, but it's notoriously difficult to offload aging, out-of-favour footballers from top clubs who still have time to run on their sweetheart contracts. Look at the Gareth Bale saga at Real Madrid.

Or 32-year-old Ivan Rakitic's case at Barcelona. The Croat said in an interview with Mundo Deportivo in April that he felt like "a sack of potatoes" after Barcelona tried to sell him last summer against his wishes. He wants to see out his contract, which runs until 2021.

"Over time, we're going to see a shrinking of middle-tier high-earners," says Ben Lyttleton, author of Edge: What Business Can Learn From Football. "The really high-earners will retain their value, but the middle high-earners will have to take lower contracts at some point. There will be more opportunities for clubs to give younger players a chance to keep the wage bills down.

"We'll see clubs trying to move on players with good deals. We'll see more swap deals, more loans. There will be a change in how the market will operate. There will be opportunities for smart clubs to find value.

"With a player like Rakitic, there are only a certain number of clubs he would go to. Maybe Barca take the hit and say, 'Go to Napoli, and we'll pay half your wages,' going one level below where he is now. That might have to be the solution that works for everyone. It's a complicated situation."

Barcelona's debt is also troubling, especially given the club's ambitious plans for revamping the Camp Nou in what's called the Espai Barca project. There are conflicting reports about the actual debt figure. The club maintains it is €460 million, although elsewhere it has been reported as being as high as €888 million.

"The club's debt is very high," says Font. "It's much higher than what the club explains. It's something we don't understand: why the club is not being fully transparent, especially given the ownership structure of the club. It's not a publicly listed company, but at the same time, it's not owned by the board. There's no single owner. There should be more transparency.

"It's really hard to distil the actual debt [from the annual accounts]. It's also not taking into account any debt or investment that is being made for the Espai Barca project. What also increases the real debt amount are cash advances that some entities have made, for example, if a sponsor signs a sponsorship deal for, say, €10 million a year, and Barca has asked them to advance the cash.

"When you add everything up, our estimate is that the debt is probably around €700 million, which puts the finances of the club in a perilous position, especially because of its limited profitability. The club generates a lot of revenue, but it spends a lot of money, so it does not generate enough cash to pay the debt back. Obviously when you have this type of financial situation at the time you need to build a new team and pay for the Espai Barca project, that's a concern."

Font adds that Real Madrid have been a lot more "prudent" in managing their finances over the last few years, which puts them in a stronger position facing into a downturn: "They've built a war chest."

The footballer who has most regularly featured on the front cover of Catalonia's sports newspapers over the last few months has been Lautaro Martinez, the Inter Milan and Argentina striker. He's seen as a successor to Luis Suarez at the club, and he enjoys the blessing of Messi, his compatriot. Can Barcelona afford to buy him this summer, though, given the state of its finances?

The footballer who has most regularly featured on the front cover of Catalonia's sports newspapers over the last few months has been Lautaro Martinez, the Inter Milan and Argentina striker. He's seen as a successor to Luis Suarez at the club, and he enjoys the blessing of Messi, his compatriot. Can Barcelona afford to buy him this summer, though, given the state of its finances?
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Post Postao/la BoixosNois1899 » 21 jun 2020, 19:56

slika
"I can't remember the last time I saw something like this. Extraordinary scenes at the Nou Camp. Sergi Roberto – the substitute – is the hero of the hour and it is the greatest Champions League knock out comeback of all time!"

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Post Postao/la Goretzka » 21 jun 2020, 20:13

Kakvi bolidi kad ih pobjedis cinjenicama na neke lajkove se vade. :rol:
Cuj ovog ankete neke hahahahaha
Pa za Messija bi glasali samo katalonci i mrzitelji goat-a.
To sto Barcini fanovi ne mogu meda u LP a Bgm im i kup vazda nesto ispada zato i dizu Messija toliko. Ono, ajd bar u necemu najbolji da budemo. E nece moci :rol:

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Post Postao/la Derdiyok » 21 jun 2020, 20:15

Jednostavno najveći svih vremena. Samo neznalice mogu tvrditi suprotno.

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Post Postao/la Dzoni » 21 jun 2020, 20:17

Rajaz je napisao/la:
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A ovamo imas Zidanov Madrid koji je uzeo 3 lige prvaka u 3 godine.
I gubio lige do Nove godine.
Lige su nebitne sve do momenta kada ne odu na RMB, tamo su već druge priče.

Hoće se kažu objesit ako i ovu ispuše :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Vidjet cemo za koji sat.
Ako kiksnemo protiv Sociedada to ce bit zato sto liga nije bitna.

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Post Postao/la Zonked » 21 jun 2020, 20:18

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Prvo, Messi je dao 20 golova, a ne 16.
OK 20 :roll: nisam siguran da je istina ali et ako ce ti biti lakse nek bude 41-20
A zašto samo četvrfinala, polufinala i finala ako nije tajna?
Vrlo jednostavno od 1/4 imas 8 najjacih ekipa te sezone u Evropi ako njima zabijas sta je sporno s ovim sto su vec ispali :think: ali ako ti je lakse daj i tu statistiku 1/8 cisto sumnjam da je razlika veca od 2 ili 3 gola u bilo ciju korist
Ili kakav genijalac moraš biti pa uspoređivati 2 pomenuta igrača iako je Ronaldo odigrao sigurno 15-ak utakmica više u nokaut fazi?
Pa igrao bi i Messi vise utakmica da se malo vise potrudi van Barcelone
Lionel Messi hasn’t scored a Champions League away goal beyond the round of 16 since 2013
Još spominješ finala gdje je Ronaldo bio nevidljiv u čak 4 od 6 odigranih finala.
Da 6 finala naspram 3 sacekajmo da Messi odigra jos 3 pa cemo lakse uporediti doprinos u finalima ovako nema smisla a i moras priznati 3 finala za navodnog GOAT-a nije bas...
Dovoljno je samo pogledati ankete ko je bolji i u svakoj anketi svaki puta Messi pobjedi osim kada ta anketa bude na Marci.
Jao ankete vam mjerilo ko je bolji igrac :facepalm: daj pogledaj onda i stanje na društvenim mrežama ko ima vise pratitelja pa nam i to prenesi kao relevantan podatak :facepalm:

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Post Postao/la BoixosNois1899 » 21 jun 2020, 20:24

Messi protiv CR-a protiv najjacih klubova iz liga petice

Mesi - Real Madrid; 41 U, 26 gol, 14 asis
Mesi - Atletico: 36 U, 31 gol, 7 asis
Mesi - Sevilla: 36 U, 37 gol, 18 asis
Mesi - Valencia: 33 U, 28 gol, 13 asis
Mesi - Liverpool: 4 U, 2 gol, 0 asis
Mesi - Arsenal: 6 U, 9 gol, 2 asis
Mesi - Totenham: 1 U, 2 gol, 0 asis
Mesi - Man Utd: 6 U, 4 gol, 0 asis
Mesi - City: 6 U, 6 gol, 3 asis
Mesi - Chelsea: 10 U, 3 gol, 3 asis
Mesi - Bayern: 5 U, 4 gol, 2 asis
Mesi - Dortmund: 1 U, 1 gol, 2 asis
Mesi - Inter: 4 U, 0 gol, 1 asis
Mesi - Juventus: 5 U, 2 gol, 1 asis
Mesi - Napoli: 1 U, 0 gol, 0 asis
Mesi - Roma: 4 U, 2 gol, 1 asis
Mesi - Lazio: 0 utakmica
Mesi - Milan: 8 U, 8 gol, 3 asis
Mesi - PSG: 7 U, 4 gol, 1 asis
Mesi - Lyon: 6 U, 5 gol, 3 asis

Messi: 220 utakmica,174 gola, 74 asistencije

CR - Barcelona: 33 U, 18 gol, 1 asis
CR - Atletico: 32 U, 25 gol, 8 asis
CR - Sevilla: 18 U, 27 gol, 1 asis
CR - Valencia: 19 U, 15 gol, 5 asis
CR - Liverpool: 12 U, 3 gol, 2 asis
CR - Arsenal: 15 U, 6 gol, 2 asis
CR - Totenham: 15 U, 10 gol, 4 asis
CR - Man Utd: 4 U, 3 gol, 0 asis
CR - City: 12 U, 5 gol, 3 asis
CR - Chelsea: 12 U, 1 gol, 2 asis
CR - Bayern: 8 U, 9 gol, 1 asis
CR - Dortmund: 9 U, 7 gol, 0 asis
CR - Inter: 4 U, 2 gol, 0 asis
CR - Juventus: 7 U, 10 gol, 2 asis
CR - Napoli: 5 U, 1 gol, 3 asis
CR - Roma: 8 U, 5 gol, 2 asis
CR - Lazio: 2 U, 1 gol, 1 asis
CR - Milan: 8 U, 4 gol, 1 asis
CR - PSG: 4 U, 3 gol, 1 asis
CR - Lyon: 10 U, 4 gol, 6 asis

Ronaldo; 237 utakmica, 159 golova, 45 asistencija
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Post Postao/la Dzoni » 21 jun 2020, 20:46


A ja Guedesa

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A ja Guedesa
Zamisli da je Messi ovako, pa to bi bilo svršavanje ovdje.
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Mislis Koza?

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A ja Guedesa
Zamisli da je Messi ovako, pa to bi bilo svršavanje ovdje.
Ovde bi Cristina pala 16x i plakala za faul. Guedes u stilu GOAT-a, ustani i nastavi dalje.
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Post Postao/la Donnie Darko » 21 jun 2020, 21:00

meanwhile nakon lošijih par golova navijači reala su ovdje asensia nazivali budućom zlatnom loptom, čuj mene asensia mislio sam viniciusa, ovaj ne viniciusa vec rodriga, zapravo ne, asensia, ovaaj viniciusa rodriga, ili je ipak asensio

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Post Postao/la TonySosa » 21 jun 2020, 21:04

Mogao bi Hamez večeras riješiti utakmicu, ali za protivnika.

Kakve su ovo taktike Zidanea. :tokralju:
Remember, remember the 5th of November.

"On je nogometni Christoph Waltz – savršeni glumac za ulogu lošeg momka kojeg je lako voljeti i kad na terenu radi odvratne stvari."

"Three for me, two for them."

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Post Postao/la Dzoni » 21 jun 2020, 21:10

Jes lud frajer.
Mrtvog Jamesa stavlja u prvih 11.

A **** ga Asensio je bio 3.5 miliona,ako ga zdravlje posluzi do kraja sezone moci ces ga prodat za 30.
Dembele je kostao 135.
Isto Balon D'or

Za Rodryga i Viniciusa se ne sjecam da sam citao takve prognoze,to ce imigranti bolje da znaju.

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Post Postao/la Epidaurus » 21 jun 2020, 21:13

Oj Cristina, kakav krindz overload :urnebes:

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Post Postao/la MElloo » 21 jun 2020, 21:40

Donnie Darko je napisao/la:
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meanwhile nakon lošijih par golova navijači reala su ovdje asensia nazivali budućom zlatnom loptom, čuj mene asensia mislio sam viniciusa, ovaj ne viniciusa vec rodriga, zapravo ne, asensia, ovaaj viniciusa rodriga, ili je ipak asensio
Udje Asensio nakon sto je potrgao ligamente odmarao 9 mjeseci i u jednoj utakmici uradi vise nego sto Frenkie buduci najbolji veznjak svijeta de Jong uradi u cijeloj sezoni
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Post Postao/la Mokes » 21 jun 2020, 21:46

MElloo je napisao/la:
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meanwhile nakon lošijih par golova navijači reala su ovdje asensia nazivali budućom zlatnom loptom, čuj mene asensia mislio sam viniciusa, ovaj ne viniciusa vec rodriga, zapravo ne, asensia, ovaaj viniciusa rodriga, ili je ipak asensio
Udje Asensio nakon sto je potrgao ligamente odmarao 9 mjeseci i u jednoj utakmici uradi vise nego sto Frenkie buduci najbolji veznjak svijeta de Jong uradi u cijeloj sezoni
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Post Postao/la Dzoni » 21 jun 2020, 21:48

Da ne pricamo da je zabijao golcine Barci,Neueru u polufinalu i Juventusu u finalu.
Al ajde vidit cemo jos sta ce bit s njim samo da se ne obnovi ova povreda.
U svakom slucaju kao sto rekoh i da ga prodas imas na njemu +30ak miliona a nije da nije imao nikakav doprinos.
Pisaj ga i polomljen je bolji od Coutinha.

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Post Postao/la delinjo » 21 jun 2020, 22:50

Spanci nemaju normalne ekipe, sta je ivo dan ti ****, pa termini su zanimljiviji haha
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Spanci nemaju normalne ekipe, sta je ivo dan ti ****, pa termini su zanimljiviji haha
Ja ne znam šta ti gledaš svaku noć, sve odlične utakmice. Odlična borba na sredini terena. Mikel Merino i Casemiro igraju odlične utakmice.
Remember, remember the 5th of November.

"On je nogometni Christoph Waltz – savršeni glumac za ulogu lošeg momka kojeg je lako voljeti i kad na terenu radi odvratne stvari."

"Three for me, two for them."

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