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Re: BiH Tenis

Postano: 10 apr 2015, 23:16
Postao/la Unofficialpage
vedator je napisao/la:slika
http://moevideo.net/video/67591.699a946 ... bc109aae34

Evo ga, 22 minute materijala jbg, ali najbitnije snimljeno. :mrgreen:
Ti si car, svaka čast. Ja tražio 10-15 min a ti mi dao 22. min. :mrgreen: Dok uhvatim vremena ovo moram pogledat. :D

Re: BiH Tenis

Postano: 10 apr 2015, 23:33
Postao/la Virtu4l
Evo malo zanimljivosti za sve one koji se pitaju zašto Damir nema ovo, zašto Damir nema ono,
Stakhovsky:"If you travel with a coach as a top100 player, you earn 20-30.000$/year"


"If you’re in the top 100 in the rankings and you travel with just one trainer, you’ll end up with a modest surplus of USD 20-30,000 a year," reckons Ukrainian Sergiy Stakhovsky, a member of the ATP Player Council, and one of the active leaders in the movement for fair prize money. If you take the top 100 football teams or golfers, or top 100 players of any sport broadcast on TV for that matter, their earnings will be disproportionately more. Who’s at fault for this? "The Slams put the squeeze on everything. If they start to share out the income more, it will make sense to break into the top 100," states Stakhovsky. "But, it’s possible that some people will think it’s absurd that a player who has lost in the very first round can earn USD 50-100,000. But think of what he has invested just to get there and play. Flying to Australia is a feat in itself as it takes 24 hours. I certainly wouldn’t think of flying economy there. That’s just unrealistic."

How much does a "decent journeyman" earn on the men’s tour? What kind of income does he earn and how much actually ends up in his pocket? Let’s do the math. Fortunately, Benjamin Becker, ranked 40 in the ATP rankings, is quite happy to estimate what his actual earnings are for us along with our colleagues from the German monthly "Tennis Magazin".

"All the Grand Slams and ATP 1000 tournaments are mandatory for the stars," explains Benjamin Becker. "That’s why their organisers don’t pay any appearance money. But the lower-level tournaments – "250" series – which barely make ends meet, need to pay out huge sums to attract the top players."

"Many talented players fall by the wayside because they’re not able to pay for travel to tournaments off their own racquet," says the German. "The prize money is too little in the lower categories of tournaments – Challengers and satellites."

According to his own calculations, Becker spent last year around EUR 130,000 on a trainer, food, flights and equipment. Sergiy Stakhovsky spends even more – around EUR 170,000 all in. "After the Masters tournaments in Indian Wells and Miami, I was around 5,000 in the red," says Stakhovsky. "And, basically, there are no cheap hotels in Indian Wells. The cheapest room costs USD 144 a night. Prize money is also taxed at 38%. So, you arrive there at least four days before the tournament starts. You spend a minimum of three and a half weeks in the States. You pay for a trainer (weekly salary) plus food, hotel… And what about flights?"

Transport costs account for a significant proportion of the expenses incurred by professional tennis players. "I mainly fly economy", says Stakhovsky. "We can’t actually buy tickets early. And you can’t buy cheap tickets either. We often buy them on the day we’re flying. We’re talking about different figures again. Last year 85,000 [translator: not sure if this is euros or dollars given that amounts were quoted in euros previous paragraph.] went on tickets alone. I earned USD 428,000. We deduct, on average, 30% from this amount for tax. These are the sums involved."

Winners of Challenger tournaments are paid USD 5-15,000. This means that, just to offset their transport costs, players need to win almost every week. "Playing at Challenger level, you can just about still retain professional status, which is not the case with Futures," comments Becker. He uses the term "professional" to mean that a player can pay for the services of a trainer and transport costs only from prize money.

Unlike the highly lucrative advertising contracts enjoyed by elite players such as Federer or Djokovic, who travel around the world with a whole entourage including trainers, physios and stringers, Benjamin Becker makes do with the services of one trainer. He’s never had his own physio. Most of his fellow players, like him, share one physio provided by the ATP. This obviously doesn’t help reduce the level of injury suffered by players on the tour, who come out on court and play with injuries that haven’t healed until the pain becomes unbearable. In the lower echelons of the world rankings, where players can only rely on prize money, it becomes a desperate battle for survival. "It’s getting even tougher," admits Becker, fully aware of the practices that go on in Challengers and Futures from first-hand experience.

Apart from being excessively motivated, one of the main features of the life of those typically featuring at the lower ranking levels is total thrift. As Becker explains, "Everyone tries to save as much as they can. In the US I have always stayed with families. I arrived at one tournament in Ecuador in a taxi without any doors. The road twisted and turned through the mountains and I was glad to get there alive!"

And one final recollection from Becker. In the soup he was served in the players’ restaurant he found a… screw. True enough, it’s not just the players that are scrimping and saving, but the poor tournaments too…

Re: BiH Tenis

Postano: 11 apr 2015, 00:23
Postao/la Vedad87
Procitao sam tekst i fakat je to tako. Nisam ni razmisljao na taj nacin. Samo elitni igraci, koji sklope i ugovore sa strane (reklame i sl) mogu sebi priustiti to.

Sve u svemu, Damke za sad napreduje i bez pravog trenera. Vidjet cemo kad/ako udari u zid, tad ce morati, htio on ili ne htio.

Re: BiH Tenis

Postano: 11 apr 2015, 00:32
Postao/la ennis
Danas nisam gledao, mozda je i bolje,peh sam ja. Kontam i sutra da kao "slucajno" propustim :lol:
Svaka cast Damiru, ma idemo u Top 50 do kraja godine sto da ne :bih: samo optimisticno,posebno me raduje Damirov servis,ovo sto sam vidio iz ovih sazetaka je odlicno.

Mirza nazalost danas nije uspio,ali nema veze,mora nastaviti u ovom ritmu uzeti sto vise turnira,konstantno skupljati bodove,jednom ce ga procepiti,fali mu jedan dobar rezultat (kao recimo Damirov u Australiji) da ga digne i finansijski i sa samopouzdanjem.

Re: BiH Tenis

Postano: 11 apr 2015, 00:32
Postao/la Virtu4l
Vedad87 je napisao/la:Procitao sam tekst i fakat je to tako. Nisam ni razmisljao na taj nacin. Samo elitni igraci, koji sklope i ugovore sa strane (reklame i sl) mogu sebi priustiti to.
Prava lova je u slamovima i mastersima, npr prošle godine je na AO zaradio više nego za četiri mjeseca u ovoj godini, a ima najbolje rezultate u karijeri.

Re: BiH Tenis

Postano: 11 apr 2015, 00:36
Postao/la Vedad87
Virtu4l je napisao/la:
Vedad87 je napisao/la:Procitao sam tekst i fakat je to tako. Nisam ni razmisljao na taj nacin. Samo elitni igraci, koji sklope i ugovore sa strane (reklame i sl) mogu sebi priustiti to.
Prava lova je u slamovima i mastersima, npr prošle godine je na AO zaradio više nego za četiri mjeseca u ovoj godini, a ima najbolje rezultate u karijeri.
Da, naravno, ali za te stvari moras igrati konstantno dobro, da bi mogao igrati te turnire. Nadam se da ce Dzumi imati sto manje oscilacija, jer znamo da ga ide dobro, i onda izgubi od 200+ nekog igrača. Sve u svemu, uživao sam danas :D

Re: BiH Tenis

Postano: 11 apr 2015, 01:30
Postao/la QUARTERBACK
E kad bi ga Djokovic kako ubacio u ovaj SergioTachini brend, ljudina bi ispao fakat. :D

Re: BiH Tenis

Postano: 11 apr 2015, 01:34
Postao/la shminka
u narednih mjesec i po dana nema bodova za braniti :bih: :bih: :bih:

Re: BiH Tenis

Postano: 11 apr 2015, 01:47
Postao/la madridista4ever
shminka je napisao/la:u narednih mjesec i po dana nema bodova za braniti :bih: :bih: :bih:
to je predobro. mora to iskoristiti,ako nastavi ovako igrati mogao bi baš fino skočiti na rankingu.. :mrgreen:

Re: BiH Tenis

Postano: 11 apr 2015, 01:56
Postao/la ennis
Ma 250 bodova do kraja godine uopste nije strasno za braniti,bice kriticno u junu i julu kada se brani Arad i S.Benedeto (ukupno 160 bodova) a onda sezonu moze finisirati kako treba, u stilu. :bih:

Re: BiH Tenis

Postano: 11 apr 2015, 08:27
Postao/la Biki
Virtu4l je napisao/la:
Vedad87 je napisao/la:Procitao sam tekst i fakat je to tako. Nisam ni razmisljao na taj nacin. Samo elitni igraci, koji sklope i ugovore sa strane (reklame i sl) mogu sebi priustiti to.
Prava lova je u slamovima i mastersima, npr prošle godine je na AO zaradio više nego za četiri mjeseca u ovoj godini, a ima najbolje rezultate u karijeri.
Neko se ovdje opet provaljuje! ;) Niti je 75000 australskih dolara vise od do sada vec zaradjenih 66 300 dolara u 'prva cetiri mjeseca 2015 g. (a jos nije kraj aprila!?), niti on ove godine ima ista bolje rezultate izuzev Casablance. I ranije je osvajao ch a na AO je osvojio 115 bodova, sto mu jos nikad nije poslo za rukom.

Re: BiH Tenis

Postano: 11 apr 2015, 08:58
Postao/la isx
Prenosi li neko polufinale na satelitu?

Re: BiH Tenis

Postano: 11 apr 2015, 09:05
Postao/la Virtu4l
Biki je napisao/la:Neko se ovdje opet provaljuje! ;) Niti je 75000 australskih dolara vise od do sada vec zaradjenih 66 300 dolara u 'prva cetiri mjeseca 2015 g. (a jos nije kraj aprila!?), niti on ove godine ima ista bolje rezultate izuzev Casablance. I ranije je osvajao ch a na AO je osvojio 115 bodova, sto mu jos nikad nije poslo za rukom.
Fakat sam znao da ćeš se ti primiti na taj komentar, ali namjerno sam ga ostavio takav kakav je, bez dodatnih objašnjenja. To je samo trebalo da ostavi utisak gdje je prava lova, a ti bi stvarno mogao da prestaneš da nas smaraš i da nas pustiš da uživamo. Imaš milion tema gdje možeš da sereš, nemoj na ovoj.

I još nešto, kad si ponovo pametan, u Australiji je zaradio 89,400 AUD, pa sad vidi ko se provaljuje.

Re: BiH Tenis

Postano: 11 apr 2015, 09:11
Postao/la Biki
Omatorio si a ne umijes da se ponasas!? Pogledaj samo reakcije kad ti neko argumentom uzvrati! Krevet ti je tu negdje, kod ulaza u SS forum 24/7 i ti zaista nikoga ne smaras, "POklopcu svakom loncu'!

Re: BiH Tenis

Postano: 11 apr 2015, 09:13
Postao/la Virtu4l
Kojim argumentom, argument ti je da je u Australiji zaradio 75.000 AUD? Provjeri koliko je zaradio u Australiji, pa onda pokušaj ponovo.

U Australiji je zaradio 68.600 USD
Ove godine je zaradio 66.300 USD

Momčina je zaboravio da se i u kvalifikacijama zarađuje novac, tako da je opet došlo do provale :lol:

Re: BiH Tenis

Postano: 11 apr 2015, 09:25
Postao/la Biki
Kakva provala! Novac iz kvala se ne prenosi, ali se bodovi prenose, pa to je 'abeceda' iz tenisa! Sta bi ti covjek!?
A link valjda najbolje svjedoci.
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Play ... 14&m=s&e=0#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: BiH Tenis

Postano: 11 apr 2015, 09:31
Postao/la Virtu4l
Sve je to nebitno, bitno je to da nas ti konstantno smaraš, ponajviše sitnicama. Novac od kvalifikacija se prenosi, ali samo u prvu rundu.

Znači popusti nas ako je ikako moguće.

Re: BiH Tenis

Postano: 11 apr 2015, 09:43
Postao/la Virtu4l
isx je napisao/la:Prenosi li neko polufinale na satelitu?
Prenosi neki njihov kanal Arryadia,

ovdje imaš parametre, pa pokušaj pronaći

http://www.lyngsat.com/tvchannels/ma/Arryadia.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://arryadia.snrt.ma/index.php?optio ... &Itemid=38" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ovo im je logo, da se lakše snađeš

slika

Re: BiH Tenis

Postano: 11 apr 2015, 09:50
Postao/la isx
Virtu4l je napisao/la:
isx je napisao/la:Prenosi li neko polufinale na satelitu?
Prenosi neki njihov kanal Arryadia,

ovdje imaš parametre, pa pokušaj pronaći

http://www.lyngsat.com/tvchannels/ma/Arryadia.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://arryadia.snrt.ma/index.php?optio ... &Itemid=38" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ovo im je logo, da se lakše snađeš

slika
Hvala sefe nasao na 26E otkljucan kanal ako koga jos zanima.

Re: BiH Tenis

Postano: 11 apr 2015, 09:58
Postao/la Unofficialpage
I ja sam to našao na 13E. Radi pa danas k'o čovjek gledat Damira na TVu. :mrgreen:


Evo i šta Janko kaže o zaradi http://www.b92.net/sport/tenis/vesti.ph ... _id=618126" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;