Liverpool FC

[mirgerr]

Eto jos veceras malo mastajte o tim stvarima, pa da se sutra lagano vratimo realnim imenima. Sto bi Stevie rekao Koumetio, Ojo i tako to.

[Otelo]

Eto messija u city, nama RIP

Treba to sprijeciti, treba dovesti Messija

Poslati im Ginija i Firmina, a u drugom pravcu Leo aa?

I sta onda, da nam napad bude Mane - Brewster - Salah?

[mirgerr]

Treba to sprijeciti, treba dovesti Messija

Poslati im Ginija i Firmina, a u drugom pravcu Leo aa?

I sta onda, da nam napad bude Mane - Brewster - Salah?

[Otelo]

Ovo je sve

Jedva čekam 19/20

[mirgerr]

Joj Kloppu price, ko da vodi Ipswich.

[Torres_9]

Kako bi volio da celzi ili city uzmu tiaga pa da onda pocne kmecat

[StevieG8]

Paul Gorst je imao poduzi q&a danas i uglavnom svaki igrac kojeg su spominjali u posljednje vrijeme kao metu Liverpoola je zbog korone preskup za nas. Ganjat ce se samo 4ti stoper na fazon Klavana a sve ostalo ide po principu prodaj ako hoces da kupis.

[mirgerr]

Procitao sam danas na vise mjesta da se sa Wijnaldumom nece produziti.

[Torres_9]

Nadam se da ce ga prodati do kraja iduce sedmice i dovesti tiaga

[mirgerr]

“Liverpool will be behind the likes of Paris Saint-Germain and Manchester City in the running for securing Messi’s signature. But if there’s anything that football has taught us in the last few months, it is that you can’t rule anything out.” [Liverpool Echo]

[Otelo]

“Liverpool will be behind the likes of Paris Saint-Germain and Manchester City in the running for securing Messi’s signature. But if there’s anything that football has taught us in the last few months, it is that you can’t rule anything out.” [Liverpool Echo]

Nisam znao da su ovi postali satirični portal

[StevieG8]

Kakve su šanse da Pep upari Messia i Thiaga u Cityu

[mirgerr]

Nista od Messija, evo javlja Sky

Otelo, Echo je odavno poceo budalesati.

[nerkolfc]

Kako je Pearce otišao iz Echa nisu oni više toliko pouzdani.

[Otelo]

Kako je Pearce otišao iz Echa nisu oni više toliko pouzdani.

Pa i Pearce je bio main Liverpool guy, a i dalje je. Tu je još Mellisa i Maddock s Mirrora čini mi se. Od ostalih niko nije previše blizak najužim klubovima. Vidiš da većina navoda dolazi iz drugih medija jer je Edwards zabranio da se bilo šta govori.

[Torres_9]

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[StevieG8]

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Kako da procitam ovo

[mirgerr]

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Kako da procitam ovo

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Liverpool, Thiago and the waiting game

In Munich, they expect Thiago Alcantara to join Liverpool. Multiple s-ources have told The Athletic that he is waiting for Michael Edwards to make his move. Officially, Liverpool are interested but have made no offer. Figures with close links to the central characters in the deal react similarly whenever they are asked about its progress — there is an emoji for the shrugging of shoulders, it turns out.

So what is going on? Thiago’s links to Anfield started at the beginning of June and the timeframe is significant: this summer, Georginio Wijnaldum entered the final year of his contract, a player whose talent would need to be replaced if Liverpool were to decide to sell and avoid the risk of losing him in the summer of 2021 for nothing.

Given Liverpool pride themselves on their sensible financial operation, surely they cannot afford a repetition of what happened with Emre Can, a player who may have cost less than £10 million but left on a free transfer at the age of just 24. In 2016, Wijnaldum was worth £25 million.

Last season, Jurgen Klopp had 10 central midfield options and the Dutchman played more games than any of them, both in the league and across all competitions. This contributed towards his running stats exceeding those competing for a place with him, not only in total but on average. He never seems to stop. He is dependable.

His influence cannot be overstated both on and off the pitch. When Klopp decided to apply an official chain of command among players in 2018, Wijnaldum was voted in by teammates as fourth captain. He is a spokesman for the squad. Beside Virgil van Dijk and Andy Robertson, you can rely on him to explain bad results as well as good ones.

Yet the clock on his Liverpool career is ticking. His contract is a tricky one to negotiate, primarily because of his age. It is fair to say the player’s agent Humphrey Nijman appreciates his client’s value and is determined to secure a deal that ensures this is reflected. At 29, Wijnaldum is a leader in this team but will he still be in three years’ time? Liverpool’s economic model requires smart and decisive trading and Klopp should be wary of the consequences if too many of his key players get old at once.

Captain Jordan Henderson turned 30 in June. Mohamed Salah will be 29 next June. Sadio Mane will be 29 in April. Roberto Firmino will be 29 in October. Next July, Van Dijk enters his thirties. Thiago will go the same way even before Liverpool’s record signing.

Age means any analysis of numbers comes with a caveat, especially as one of Klopp’s primary considerations is endurance. Wijnaldum played in 37 out of 38 league games last season and has not featured in fewer than 33 games across any of the past four campaigns — making 141 league appearances in total (an average of 35 games). A mixture of injuries and Bayern’s dominance affording greater rest have meant Thiago’s appearances in the Bundesliga have been restricted over the same period. He has played 94 times (average: 23.5). Since the summer of 2016, indeed, Thiago is 30 appearances behind Wijnaldum across all competitions.


Wijnaldum’s future may well define Thiago’s (Photo: Craig Mercer/MB Media/Getty Images)
So what might Thiago offer that Wijnaldum doesn’t? The challenge for Liverpool — and what they will need from their players — does not necessarily change because they are champions. They are used to being a scalp because of their record in Europe, as well as at Anfield, where they have not lost in the league for more than three and a half years. Every game brings enormous pressure and this is a team accustomed to dealing with negative tactics.

It will nevertheless be fascinating to see how Arsenal approach the Community Shield on Saturday because in July, their victory over Liverpool, as well as their extreme defensive approach, gave warning to the future. Like Everton before them, would Arsenal have been able to park the bus in front of a packed Emirates where there is a natural expectation for the home team to have a go?

Liverpool were already champions by then and there was nothing riding on the result but that was not the case at Goodison Park a few weeks earlier. It may sound excessive but in the midst of a pandemic and with the voices of players and managers echoing around stadiums, perhaps this is where Thiago could help the most.

Not all midfields are really engine rooms but Liverpool’s is. Thiago understands the pressing game yet his final-third pass completion rate exceeds any of the options Klopp currently has at his disposal. He is the one who finds the space which allows others to deliver assists and the goals.

Any prospective deal may appear to be dragging, given Edwards has helped to shift Liverpool’s reputation in the transfer market. For so long, the club seemed to get caught behind. For the past three or four years, Edwards has been ahead of it. That does not mean, however, he has always been able to get deals done quickly. This would ignore what happened with two of the club’s most significant modern signings.

While Van Dijk arrived because he knew how much Klopp wanted him, he did not do so until six months after Liverpool’s aborted first attempt to sign him. Similarly, Alisson became convinced that his future lay on Merseyside after Roma’s 5-2 thrashing at Anfield in a Champions League semi-final first leg in April but he did not join the club until late July, which in turn was almost eight weeks after Loris Karius’ calamitous appearance in the final.

Some leading figures in the game think there is a chance Thiago might end up at Manchester City, even though the player’s relationship with Pep Guardiola suffered when they worked together in Munich. Thiago is more attracted to the idea of Liverpool, says one s-ource, because “they are the best team on the planet aside from Bayern”. Like Alisson, he remembers the force of Liverpool’s midfield, having been a part of a visiting side that drew at Anfield in February 2019 before Bayern were devoured in Munich three weeks later when Sadio Mane really turned it on.

For the situation to move along, Liverpool will surely need to secure guarantees of revenues from outgoings. Even though Adam Lallana has departed, Klopp’s midfield options remain at 10 because of the return of Marko Grujic from Hertha Berlin. The sales of the Serbian, Xherdan Shaqiri and Harry Wilson were expected to raise a minimum of £60 million this summer but those estimates were made before the pandemic.

A perception remains that because Liverpool broke transfer records for Van Dijk and Alisson, they have spent their way to success. Each signing, however, was possible because of major outgoings in Philippe Coutinho and seemingly less significant ones like Dominic Solanke, as well as unexpected appearances in finals of European competition. For Edwards, the game remains a quest for financial balance.

In Munich, the wait continues. On Monday, Bayern staff held a party after their victory in the Champions League final. “Thiago’s family was there and it looked like he has decided to say goodbye,” Karl-Heinz Rummenigge admitted. “We have read a lot about Liverpool but they have not contacted us yet.”

[StevieG8]

https://theathletic.com/2007662/2020/08 ... fl9gLvJXjf

Kako da procitam ovo

tipla

Liverpool, Thiago and the waiting game

In Munich, they expect Thiago Alcantara to join Liverpool. Multiple s-ources have told The Athletic that he is waiting for Michael Edwards to make his move. Officially, Liverpool are interested but have made no offer. Figures with close links to the central characters in the deal react similarly whenever they are asked about its progress — there is an emoji for the shrugging of shoulders, it turns out.

So what is going on? Thiago’s links to Anfield started at the beginning of June and the timeframe is significant: this summer, Georginio Wijnaldum entered the final year of his contract, a player whose talent would need to be replaced if Liverpool were to decide to sell and avoid the risk of losing him in the summer of 2021 for nothing.

Given Liverpool pride themselves on their sensible financial operation, surely they cannot afford a repetition of what happened with Emre Can, a player who may have cost less than £10 million but left on a free transfer at the age of just 24. In 2016, Wijnaldum was worth £25 million.

Last season, Jurgen Klopp had 10 central midfield options and the Dutchman played more games than any of them, both in the league and across all competitions. This contributed towards his running stats exceeding those competing for a place with him, not only in total but on average. He never seems to stop. He is dependable.

His influence cannot be overstated both on and off the pitch. When Klopp decided to apply an official chain of command among players in 2018, Wijnaldum was voted in by teammates as fourth captain. He is a spokesman for the squad. Beside Virgil van Dijk and Andy Robertson, you can rely on him to explain bad results as well as good ones.

Yet the clock on his Liverpool career is ticking. His contract is a tricky one to negotiate, primarily because of his age. It is fair to say the player’s agent Humphrey Nijman appreciates his client’s value and is determined to secure a deal that ensures this is reflected. At 29, Wijnaldum is a leader in this team but will he still be in three years’ time? Liverpool’s economic model requires smart and decisive trading and Klopp should be wary of the consequences if too many of his key players get old at once.

Captain Jordan Henderson turned 30 in June. Mohamed Salah will be 29 next June. Sadio Mane will be 29 in April. Roberto Firmino will be 29 in October. Next July, Van Dijk enters his thirties. Thiago will go the same way even before Liverpool’s record signing.

Age means any analysis of numbers comes with a caveat, especially as one of Klopp’s primary considerations is endurance. Wijnaldum played in 37 out of 38 league games last season and has not featured in fewer than 33 games across any of the past four campaigns — making 141 league appearances in total (an average of 35 games). A mixture of injuries and Bayern’s dominance affording greater rest have meant Thiago’s appearances in the Bundesliga have been restricted over the same period. He has played 94 times (average: 23.5). Since the summer of 2016, indeed, Thiago is 30 appearances behind Wijnaldum across all competitions.


Wijnaldum’s future may well define Thiago’s (Photo: Craig Mercer/MB Media/Getty Images)
So what might Thiago offer that Wijnaldum doesn’t? The challenge for Liverpool — and what they will need from their players — does not necessarily change because they are champions. They are used to being a scalp because of their record in Europe, as well as at Anfield, where they have not lost in the league for more than three and a half years. Every game brings enormous pressure and this is a team accustomed to dealing with negative tactics.

It will nevertheless be fascinating to see how Arsenal approach the Community Shield on Saturday because in July, their victory over Liverpool, as well as their extreme defensive approach, gave warning to the future. Like Everton before them, would Arsenal have been able to park the bus in front of a packed Emirates where there is a natural expectation for the home team to have a go?

Liverpool were already champions by then and there was nothing riding on the result but that was not the case at Goodison Park a few weeks earlier. It may sound excessive but in the midst of a pandemic and with the voices of players and managers echoing around stadiums, perhaps this is where Thiago could help the most.

Not all midfields are really engine rooms but Liverpool’s is. Thiago understands the pressing game yet his final-third pass completion rate exceeds any of the options Klopp currently has at his disposal. He is the one who finds the space which allows others to deliver assists and the goals.

Any prospective deal may appear to be dragging, given Edwards has helped to shift Liverpool’s reputation in the transfer market. For so long, the club seemed to get caught behind. For the past three or four years, Edwards has been ahead of it. That does not mean, however, he has always been able to get deals done quickly. This would ignore what happened with two of the club’s most significant modern signings.

While Van Dijk arrived because he knew how much Klopp wanted him, he did not do so until six months after Liverpool’s aborted first attempt to sign him. Similarly, Alisson became convinced that his future lay on Merseyside after Roma’s 5-2 thrashing at Anfield in a Champions League semi-final first leg in April but he did not join the club until late July, which in turn was almost eight weeks after Loris Karius’ calamitous appearance in the final.

Some leading figures in the game think there is a chance Thiago might end up at Manchester City, even though the player’s relationship with Pep Guardiola suffered when they worked together in Munich. Thiago is more attracted to the idea of Liverpool, says one s-ource, because “they are the best team on the planet aside from Bayern”. Like Alisson, he remembers the force of Liverpool’s midfield, having been a part of a visiting side that drew at Anfield in February 2019 before Bayern were devoured in Munich three weeks later when Sadio Mane really turned it on.

For the situation to move along, Liverpool will surely need to secure guarantees of revenues from outgoings. Even though Adam Lallana has departed, Klopp’s midfield options remain at 10 because of the return of Marko Grujic from Hertha Berlin. The sales of the Serbian, Xherdan Shaqiri and Harry Wilson were expected to raise a minimum of £60 million this summer but those estimates were made before the pandemic.

A perception remains that because Liverpool broke transfer records for Van Dijk and Alisson, they have spent their way to success. Each signing, however, was possible because of major outgoings in Philippe Coutinho and seemingly less significant ones like Dominic Solanke, as well as unexpected appearances in finals of European competition. For Edwards, the game remains a quest for financial balance.

In Munich, the wait continues. On Monday, Bayern staff held a party after their victory in the Champions League final. “Thiago’s family was there and it looked like he has decided to say goodbye,” Karl-Heinz Rummenigge admitted. “We have read a lot about Liverpool but they have not contacted us yet.”

Preskupo za nezaposlenog studenta , hvala ti.

Meh ne znam sta reci na sve ovo, digao se prevelik hype oko Thiaga dok puno vece rupe u ekipi niko vise i ne spominje. Vise bih volio da ostane Wijnaldum nego da trosimo novac na jednako starog igraca koji je skroz drugaciji tip veznjaka od onog koji je nama potreban.

[gaston]

Celtic are looking to sign Liverpool forward Taiwo Awoniyi for £9 million.

Ide im Edouard, bice prvi napadac.

Rhianova sudbina ce se znati nakon Arsenala.

Ukoliko dodje do pozajmice, nadam se da ce bar ostati u Premu.