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Ma sve su to samo nagadjanja,da je istina barem 50% sto se pise,United bi vec 10 igraca doveo.RedDevilS je napisao/la:Sad poslije lijepih cestitki danas ocekujemo pobjedu Engleza, i da pitam posto sam vidio oko Bainesa da je Fergie poslao ponudu od 20mil?Znali ko sta vise o ovome.....Hvala.
Rooney88 je napisao/la:Brat je sigurno okruzen negdje bocama i plavokosim Svedjankama koje lice na Toivonena.
Sve najbolje druze i od mene.
Ako jest, neka je sretan, i od mene.rio_Ferdy88 je napisao/la:Kako znate da je @Cartmanu rodjendan
al tesko je to ocekivat i ako dovedemo Luku vjerovatno ce se ic po jos jednog defanzivnijeg igraca ukoliko Ando napusti OT. Thiago moze proci slazem se sa tobom. a bek onda podhitno treba(Alba, Baines)casper009 je napisao/la:pa ja sam vise za Thiaga neg za Luku...ako se vec ovaj prvi dovodi sa nama u kontekst,onda ga treba uzeti...momak je odlican.a mladji 5 godina od luke,sto je prednost!
a eto ako fabio ide u QPR onda vjerovatno dolazi neki lijevi bek nama...nece fergi samo na evri ostati cijelu sezonu...
...A on se oprasta ima vec deset godina...Sam je izjavio da oce da popravi igru ekipe,i da uvede novi stil,a ko ce bolje pasati u taj sistem nego Thiago...Sredina u formaciji 4-3-1-2 sa Carick-Clevery-Thiago i u vrhu Kagawa,Rooney i Welbeck Ima me Majestic na facebooku.rio_Ferdy88 je napisao/la:Kako znate da je @Cartmanu rodjendan
Hvala svima na cestitkama. 
Onda nek je sretan i od meneCartman je napisao/la:Ima me Majestic na facebooku.rio_Ferdy88 je napisao/la:Kako znate da je @Cartmanu rodjendan
Drago mi je za Welbecka, nadam se da ce mu ovo dat samopouzdanja za nastavak prvenstva i za sljedecu sezonu.
Slazem se,Realno kad Xavi ode tesko da ima neko trenutno iz Barcina skole ko ga moze dostojno zamijeniti osim Thiaga.Mislim da je Thiago njihov najveci talenat na toj poziciji i sumnjam da ce ga Tito pustiti da ode.Johny je napisao/la:Ma nece vam Barcelona dati Thiaga definitivno.Velika nada i buducnost Barcelone se ne prodaje i da je cjena 50 miliona.
Iskreno volio bih ga vidjeti u Unitedu gdje bi definitivno bio pojacanje sezone i igrac koji bi svojim znanjem definitivno uzdigao Unitedovu igru na veci level ali cisto sumnjam u mogucnost ovog transfera.
Upravo toga se ja i bojim, ali nista onda nek fkt se okrene Luki i tacka.!Narin je napisao/la:Slazem se,Realno kad Xavi ode tesko da ima neko trenutno iz Barcina skole ko ga moze dostojno zamijeniti osim Thiaga.Mislim da je Thiago njihov najveci talenat na toj poziciji i sumnjam da ce ga Tito pustiti da ode.Johny je napisao/la:Ma nece vam Barcelona dati Thiaga definitivno.Velika nada i buducnost Barcelone se ne prodaje i da je cjena 50 miliona.
Iskreno volio bih ga vidjeti u Unitedu gdje bi definitivno bio pojacanje sezone i igrac koji bi svojim znanjem definitivno uzdigao Unitedovu igru na veci level ali cisto sumnjam u mogucnost ovog transfera.
Manchester United IPO valuation in doubt
Morgan Stanley will not participate in an initial public offering of Manchester United in the US because the Glazer family is seeking a valuation for the football club that the bank does not think is realistic, people close to the deal have said.
The US-based Glazer family, who have been bitterly criticised by many Manchester United supporters for loading the club with debt in a £790m leveraged buyout in 2005, have been actively looking to issue shares since at least last August.
The Glazers had hoped to establish a valuation of more than £2bn for one of the world’s most recognisable sporting brands. But a group of wealthy fans led by Jim O’Neill, Goldman Sachs’ chief economist, who tried to buy the club from the Glazers for £1bn in 2010, argued the club was worth far less.
The Glazers originally planned to list in Hong Kong, before moving to Singapore, with plans for a two-tier share structure that would have minimised the influence of outside shareholders.
Morgan Stanley, Credit Suisse and JPMorgan Chase were expected to lead an offering of up to a third of the club and raise up to $1bn. But with markets in thrall to the debt crisis in Europe, and high profile groups such as Graff Diamonds and Formula 1 postponing or pulling offerings in Asia, the deal appeared to have been postponed.
But now midsized New York-based investment bank Jefferies is set to lead an offering, after persuading the Glazers it can obtain their valuation by listing in the US.
Morgan Stanley, Credit Suisse and JPMorgan were all offered the opportunity to join Jefferies on a US offering. Credit Suisse and JPMorgan accepted, but Morgan Stanley declined, the people said.
For Jefferies, which has never led a US offering of more than $250m, according to Dealogic, top spot on a trophy brand offering would represent a milestone in financial and reputational terms.
But with the US market for IPOs effectively shut since the troubled debut of Facebook last month, a large offering faces challenges.
One banker said it was “a sign of desperation” that, so far into the deal, the Glazers would consider switching the deal to the US and drafting in a relatively small bank.
Another person close to the deal said the Glazers might seek to sell a smaller stake, raising $500m in the US, rather than $1bn.
Manchester United, Credit Suisse, JPMorgan and Morgan Stanley declined to comment. Jefferies did not respond to requests for comment.
I od mene sretan rodjendan za legendu forumared devil88 je napisao/la:Onda nek je sretan i od meneCartman je napisao/la:Ima me Majestic na facebooku.rio_Ferdy88 je napisao/la:Kako znate da je @Cartmanu rodjendan
Drago mi je za Welbecka, nadam se da ce mu ovo dat samopouzdanja za nastavak prvenstva i za sljedecu sezonu.
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